"You have to be ready with poetry and pragmatism. And you have to be ready to see the world you want to see, commit to the change and be bold about it. Art is a very complicated thing today. Sometimes it's about things that hang on walls, and sometimes it's one's desire to have an effect in the world. I believe that all the work I do is art, and artists should make art in the biggest ways possible. That's the best thing they can do for the world."

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